Fantasy written by women
Dec. 15th, 2007 06:58 pmOn my Thursday commute home, when I reached my stop, I saw a guy in a yarmulke getting off at my stop, and putting away his book: one of the Wheel of Time books. He looked vaguely familiar, and he was reading epic fantasy, so I started a conversaton about Jordan, and then we went our seperate ways.
On Friday, when I put my book away to get off at my stop, I looked up and saw him getting off, too. So this time I started up a conversation with him, introduced myself. Turns out he's friends with N, and married to a friend of my friends.
Anyway, we were waiting for the bus and talking about fantasy, and he was listing fantasy books that I likes, and he said that, aside from Robin Hobb, he doesn't think that fantasy (particularly epic fantasy, but fantasy in general) written by women is as good as fantasy written by men.
So I told him to read Naomi Novick, and now I am wracking my brain to think of more excellent fantasy, both epic and not, written by women. Because obviously as soon as I try to think of some, it all flees.
So help me out, people, because that is an unacceptable prejudice.
On Friday, when I put my book away to get off at my stop, I looked up and saw him getting off, too. So this time I started up a conversation with him, introduced myself. Turns out he's friends with N, and married to a friend of my friends.
Anyway, we were waiting for the bus and talking about fantasy, and he was listing fantasy books that I likes, and he said that, aside from Robin Hobb, he doesn't think that fantasy (particularly epic fantasy, but fantasy in general) written by women is as good as fantasy written by men.
So I told him to read Naomi Novick, and now I am wracking my brain to think of more excellent fantasy, both epic and not, written by women. Because obviously as soon as I try to think of some, it all flees.
So help me out, people, because that is an unacceptable prejudice.
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Date: 2007-12-16 12:17 am (UTC)Possibly Mercedes Lackey, but maybe not. Her recent stuff is very formulaic, and seems to target teenaged girls.
Diana Wynne Jones, on the other hand, might be YA, but she's brilliant.
And... the other ones I can think of are either SF writers or inconsistent.
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Date: 2007-12-16 12:26 am (UTC)Wait, Ursula Le Guin. How could I forget?
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Date: 2007-12-16 12:44 am (UTC)Patricia Bray
Robin McKinley
Emma Bull
Judith Tarr
Sharon Shinn
(This is making me realize how little adult stuff I read these days, though. Even half the authors here I know better for their YA than their adult work.)
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Date: 2007-12-16 12:48 am (UTC)And I'm just waiting for
Agreed on Diana Wynne Jones and Ursula K. Le Guin.
Madeliene L'Engle.
Susan Cooper (you should have thought of that one!).
Hope Mirrlees's Lud-In-The-Mist.
Does Holly Black count, or is that too magical realism/not fantasy?
Ditto Kelly Link? Although I believe some of Link's short stories are straight-up fantasy, too.
Pamela Dean's Secret Country books are amazing.
Victoria Walker.
Oh gosh, Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, by Susanna Clarke.
And, um, the most popular fantasy series since LOTR was written by a woman - Ms. JK Rowling?
I've heard good things about Ellen Kushner's Swordspoint books but haven't read them yet.
Same with Tanith Lee's books (although one is sitting in my bedroom waiting for me!).
Caitlin R. Kiernan - horror or fantasy? Kind of both.
Ok, that's all I could find for now. But I can probably find more if you'd like. :)
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Date: 2007-12-16 12:57 am (UTC)Jacqueline Carrey is good
Lois McMaster Bujold (Curse of the Chalion, I recommend)
Ellen Kushner (Guys don't like that because of teh gay though)
Barbara Hambly
JK Rowling :p
Maybe early Anne McCaffery?
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Date: 2007-12-16 01:43 am (UTC)Katherine Kurtz, maybe: the early-middle ones are good, anyway (her most recent, not so much).
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Date: 2007-12-16 01:54 am (UTC)Andre Norton (especially the Elvenbane series she wrote with Lackey, that's still a favorite of mine)
Melanie Rawn, Dragon Prince trilogy
Kirsten Britain, Green Rider series
Joanne Bertin, although I despair at this point of her ever finishing her trilogy.
Elizabeth Haydon, Symphony of Ages series
Margaret Weis, anything NOT Dragonlance. (Not that I don't LIKE the Dragonlance books,I just like her other titles better)
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Date: 2007-12-16 04:36 am (UTC)I really like Cherie Priest and Emma Bull, but they both write contemporary and/or historical fantasy. Juliet Marillier and Sharon Shinn are relatively girly but good (though my favorite of Shinn's is actually SF, not fantasy). Robin McKinley does a lot of different things; I like many of them.
Deliberately avoiding YA fantasy because that's a whole 'nother list. :)
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Date: 2007-12-16 05:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-16 05:32 am (UTC)-- Louis McMasters Bujold - her "Curse of Chalion" is one of the best fantasy books I ever, ever read. Her science fiction kicks butt, too.
-- Louise Marley
-- Jane Yolen
-- Andre Norton
-- Madeleine L'Engle
-- Pamela Dean
-- Terri Windling
-- Patricia Wrede
-- Patricia McKillup
-- Anne McCaffrey
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Date: 2007-12-16 05:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-16 05:58 am (UTC)Jo Walton
P.C. Hodgell (If you haven't read her books, do, do, do.)
Kara Dalkey (most familiar with her silly YA stuff, but as silly YA books, they're excellent)
After a quick scan of my shelves:
Joan Aiken (children's to YA but less silly)
Juliette McKenna (not my cup of tea but might be good for someone who likes Jordan and Hobb)
Mary Gentle
In addition to what everyone's said already.
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Date: 2007-12-16 06:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-16 07:04 am (UTC)Pamela Dean.
Naomi Novik.
Tamora Pierce.
Diane Duane.
Ellen Kushner.
Delia Sherman.
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Date: 2007-12-16 11:03 am (UTC)C.J. Cherryh is very good, but s somewhat hit or miss -- there are some people who absolutely can't stand her.
What Leigh Brackett wrote is often termed Science Fiction, but it's a lot closer to fantasy of the two fisted adventure type. She also did the Empire Strikes Back screenplay.
C.L. Moore wrote some similar stuff, but for my money it's not quite as good.
Lynn Abbey's Thieves World stuff isn't bad; the same applies to the Merovingian stuff.
Mary Stewart and Evangeline Walton might also be good choices.
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Date: 2007-12-16 05:28 pm (UTC)Robin McKinley, especially Sunshine.
Madeleine L'Engle--yeah, YA, but it's still lovely.
I may post more later.
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Date: 2007-12-16 08:34 pm (UTC)